Why Are Our Conventions Attendance Falling?

by Robert Earl Houston

We’ve all heard the whispers and numbers don’t lie. Among the four traditional African-American Baptist denominations, namely, National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc., National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. International, Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc., and National Missionary Baptist Convention of America – attendance in both annual sessions and Congresses are falling.

When I was a young minister, attending the NBCA (before the split) Convention and Congress, I was amazed at the numbers. During the annual session, President’s Day it was packed “kibber to kibber” – no matter what part of the Country, if the NBCA Convention or Congress assembled there, a large crowd was sure to attend. Even in controversy, in San Francisco in 1980, when the hotel workers were on strike and we literally had to change our own beds, the ballrooms were packed and late night service was the crown jewel of the meeting. I remember the Ministers Classes of the Congress were standing room only to hear preachers like Drs. P.S. Wilkerson, Robert H. Wilson, Sr., Nehemiah Davis, Melvin Von Wade, Michael Lee Graves, A. Charles Bowie, and others stalwarts of NBCA.

But today it’s a sad, different story. Our conventions are falling down in attendance, I think for three reasons that I want to share and then I want to share a blog by Trevin Wax, to show us that this problem is just not a black baptist problem and methinks it may be across the board in most religious conventions.

Problem #1 – Costs

Baptists are consumer friendly. We don’t mind travel – our local churches prove that. Our preachers prove that. We will take a two-hop plane to get to a revival and you won’t hear a peep of complaint. Most of our congregants don’t even attend the church in their neighborhood – they drive cross town, in traffic – or in some cases across counties or even across state lines to get to church. But for Baptist conventions there is a reality – it’s the cost of travel. I was trying to help a friend get from Portland to Louisville for the NBCA session next week. The lowest that fare has been most of the summer is $590.00, round trip per person. Add the cost of a hotel approaching $150-$175 per night, plus meals, plus transportation, plus materials – and easily this trip runs into $2,000.  And they’re staying home because the travel cost has gotten so out of hand.  It’s partially not the conventions’ fault – they have no control over airfares (but part of me wonders what would happen if the four conventions banded together and negotiated with the airlines for a fare structure?). However, locations can make the difference in airfares. I love Louisville, but our airport is not a main hub for any airline and is more expensive to fly in and out of – as is most of the airports across the country. The hub cities – Los Angeles, San Diego, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, New York, Denver, Chicago, Orlando, Miami, and Baltimore – tend to have lower prices, more hotels and more flexibility in hotel costs. But my point is – the cost is getting to the convention is killing conventions. Dr. Isadore Edwards in a classic sermon once said that it shouldn’t take $2,000 to deliver a $100 registration check.

Problem # 2 – Location, Location, Location

I think PNBC showed us the way at our session in Orlando, Florida. When we met there recently, it was “packaged” as a great family getaway – and they came in record numbers. It was something to see – young people by the hundreds, in the spacious Marriott Resort and families were able to go to Disney properties, Universal Studios, the Holy Land Experience, and other area landmarks and frankly, it has been the best recreational convention I ever attended. Families came. Airfare was cheap because Orlando is a major tourist site. Even if you didn’t spend $99 per night at the host hotel, there were so many $40 and up hotels in the area, it promoted travel. Even members with timeshares used them to get to Orlando. My suggestion is simple – put the conventions where people want to go. They want to go to cities that are family-friendly. Taking them to some cities (I’m not going to mention which ones) that are (a) off the beaten path, (b) unable to accommodate late night dining; (c) impossible to fly in and out of; and (d) are non-seasonal, creates an empty convention. It doesn’t make sense to go to Phoenix in September and Chicago in January; It doesn’t make sense to go to Anchorage in February and Palm Springs in June;  It doesn’t make sense to go to New York in January and Birmingham in September. Select cities that are seasonable and capable, family-friendly, and places that have interest and cultural interest.

Problem # 3 – Planning

A strange trend has popped up in our conventions. Our reactions to the new conferences that have popped up (preaching and layperson) has been to make our conventions into conferences – when both serve two completely different purposes. The Elks, Masons, Deltas, Ques, and other conventions don’t bring in speakers from other fraternities and sororities and their numbers are just fine. But what has killed us is this false fixation that in order for the convention to do well, we’ve got to bring in “A-list speakers.”  No, I contend, use the speakers you have within your convention. This is a pet peeve for me because how can you say we’re a National anything when you rarely get to hear from your fellow travelers? Back in my NBCA days we heard Pastors like Hayward Wiggins, Isadore Edwards, A.L. Bowman, O.B. Williams, G.L. Bedford, S.M. Lockridge, E. Edward Jones, Stephen John Thurston, M.L. Price, P.S. Wilkerson – and not only did they preach, THEY BROUGHT THEIR CHOIRS, they brought their members – and the session would be packed. I remember in Denver, our pastor, the late Dr. A. Bernard Devers, I, preached and our choir of about 100 voices was seated next to a choir from Dr. Isadore Edwards’ church (he was the alternate) and they had about 125 voices – there were 225 voices in the choir stand, with another 2,000 plus in the audience – AT THE AFTERNOON SESSION. The people wanted to hear one of the NBCA voices from “way out there in Portland.” Nowadays it’s hard to identify with people from your own convention, because you never hear them during the session. Also, give us some “free time” to spend with our families. Give us time to eat, to rest, to reflect, to relax, to fellowship. Don’t program us from 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. because the truth of the matter is, if you don’t give us a break, we’re going to take a break. Give us time to check out the exhibit halls. Give us time to talk to college representatives and retirement specialists. Give us some time to shake our President’s hands in the hallways like we use to have. It is a convening time for the constituency of the convention – let the conferences do their thing, and let the convention be the convention.

Of course, your comments are welcomed. But read Trevin Wax’s blog below . . . 

Why Did So Few Southern Baptists Show Up in Houston?
by Trevin Wax (www.thegospelcoalition.org)

One of the stories from this year’s Southern Baptist Convention was the low turn-out of messengers. Truth be told, I am much more concerned with the recent report of our declining membership and number of baptisms than I am the dwindling number of messengers showing up for a yearly business meeting. Still, I’d like to venture a few guesses about why the turn-out was so low.

1. Houston is hot.

Not hot as in “awesome city!,” but hot as in humid. All kidding aside… No one ever points to weather when addressing Southern Baptist attendance, especially since we’ll go in significant numbers to muggy New Orleans when we’re electing a president or to stifling Orlando when debating a structural change (thank goodness for our expired boycott of Disneyworld!). Seriously, though, several times this year I asked pastors if they were going to the Convention, only to receive this response:I’d rather be anywhere than Houston in mid-June.

2. The trade-off isn’t powerful enough to devote significant time and finances.

Now to the more serious reasons… I think this is the key to the declining attendance of Southern Baptist Convention over the years.

A generation ago, many pastors tacked a vacation alongside the Convention proceedings. The Convention provided an excellent excuse to get away, get refreshed, enjoy time with family, and escape the doldrums of summer. Nowadays, fewer pastors see the SBC as particularly refreshing. The pastor’s conference is nice, but business meetings bring up the specter of political rancor, and that’s what a lot of pastors are trying to avoid during the quiet days of summer.

Simply put, it costs a lot of time and effort to go to the SBC, and unless a pastor sees spiritual value in being there, he is likely to decline going. He is also less likely to send others from his church, which leads to a further decline in messenger numbers.

What’s more, a pastor is likely to funnel their travel and training budget to other conferences they consider especially life-giving. In all likelihood, there were more Southern Baptist pastors at Catalyst than messengers at the SBC this year. Next year, there could be more Southern Baptists at Together for the Gospel than at the Convention in June. Pastors are carefully considering what conferences are most beneficial and then making their plans according.

3. Things are going smoothly, which makes people feel their presence is unnecessary.

While some messengers stay away because of the possibility of a rancorous business meeting, other messengers stay away because things are so peaceful. Sure, we’ve had an ongoing discussions about Calvinism and the Cooperative Program and church planting. But none of these debates have led to divisive resolutions or polarizing elections.

There are several types of Southern Baptists (David Dockery lists seven), but the camps are not neatly defined into voting blocs (thankfully). Plenty of pastors consider it a good sign when their monthly or quarterly business meetings are poorly attended. It’s a sign things are well. Perhaps many pastors view the Convention this way, especially when we’re not electing a president.

4. The things we are most passionate about are not the things the annual meeting tends to platform.

On Monday of this year’s Convention, 3500 people attended the North American Mission Board’s “Send North America” luncheon on church planting. This is a staggering figure when you consider the fact that only 5000 messengers attended the Convention. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that there were more messengers together for this lunch than for any of the actual business meeting proceedings.

What does this tell us? Southern Baptists are hungry for a meeting that casts vision and rallies our people around a great cause (and a free lunch!). They’re not necessarily there, first and foremost, to vote on resolutions.

Ronnie Floyd compares and contrasts the SBC with the Walmart Convention to make a point about the power of a story to unite and embolden people:

We should continually be evaluating how we conduct our time together annually, in order to more effectively communicate our story as the Southern Baptist Convention. We have a great story to tell and my desire is for all generations to know that story.

5. Younger guys underestimate the power of institutions.

My first visit to a Southern Baptist Convention was in San Antonio in 2007. I remember my initial shock at the small number of young people present. In 2013, the picture is different. More messengers dress casually than before, and there are more young pastors present than before.

But overall, the pastors of my generation have to be convinced of the relevance of participating in denominational life. It’s much more attractive to branch out into nimble networks or associations that have a certain “cool factor.” Unfortunately, this emphasis is short-sighted.

Here’s J. D. Greear reflecting on the need for institutions:

Recently I read Tim Keller’s Center Church, in which he discusses the interplay between movements and institutions. He points out something that is easy to ignore, that both need each other. It’s easy to see how institutions without movements quickly die (and, by “movement,” I mean that sense of shared excitement, led by charismatic leaders with a compelling vision) quickly die. What we often forget, however, is that movements without institutions lack both staying power and the teeth to accomplish their agenda.

So yes, it is easier for us to be involved in a movement without the messiness of institutions, but it is not nearly as effective.

Conclusion

What do you think? Why are fewer pastors inclined to attend the Convention? What can we learn from other denominations or conferences? Is there still value in a denominational meeting?

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6 responses

  1. Pastor Houston the convention also has to make sure they emphasize the “why”?(Why is coming to the convention so important for the pastor and the congregation.)

    The pastors are getting younger and many of them have not been a part of the old camp so they do not see the necessity of connecting with others from around the country outside of a preaching engagement. The PNBC, SBC, UMC and others need to do a better job of reinventing itself to accommodate the cultural shift that will continue to evolve.

    The message is the same but the church has changed and leadership needs to understand and attend to that movement.

    I think this is a necessary dialogue that needs to take place for other reasons as well because it is effecting the local congregation in many cities-they churches are shrinking.

  2. Something hit me – “pastors are getting younger” – but honestly, they’ve been getting younger for generations! That same statement, that’s why it just hit me, was the same thing said at the NBCA some 30 years ago when a bunch of young preachers emerged on the scene. Every generation produces younger pastors – but the difference, I think, in this generation is that younger pastors now have a choice and they pastor congregations that are no longer “plugged in” to the conventions. When I started pastoring in 1989, the Pastor was “expected” to represent the church at the conventions and that was a standard in most agreements, that the church would send the pastor to the convention. The problem is that nowadays contracts have more lucrative educational benefits and if you had to choose between a WHW Conference where you could leave Biblical exposition and the National Convention – which one do you choose? If your ministry means something to you, you would choose the Conference over the Convention. The choices are vast – Full Gospel, T.D. Jakes, E. Dewey Smith, Hampton, Jasper Williams, and on and on and on. And this malady is not just national – it’s occurring in State and Districts.

    I think the dialogue is important, even if nothing is changed. I’ve been going to conventions since a teenager and have no plans to stop going in the future – but this is an era of the buffet and not the “one stop” restaurant.

  3. I was talking to someone recently about conferences and conventions… I think this is another thing to think about. A lot of our generation has blurred, if not erased the denominational lines and are looking for QUALITY in these meetings. In the days of “how-to”, “self-help”, and media access, it has become paramount to get more for your money… whether in person, or NOT(Online Webcasts)! There was a time there was a different worship experience from denomination to denomination, even from church to church. In my area, certain churches were just known to be quiet and dignified, while some were loud and boisterous. Our church fellowshipped with Bible-believing churches in our community, but carried a certain pentecostal flair everywhere we went (yes a Missionary Baptist Church). We had our Sunday School unions amongst five churches in our area… ALL were Baptist, but different “flavors” and were we enjoyed one another’s fellowship. As I grew up more, I found the pentecostal experience to be more my speed and leaned there. Now you can’t REALLY tell what kind of church it is, until you experience it, for the sign and edifice no longer gives it away.

    I go to some of the T.D. Jakes conferences, been to COGIC Convocations, and even other worship (Deeper Level Conference – Israel Houghton) and church conferences (GatewayConference) – I talk to people of ALL Bible/Christ-Following denominations, and the conclusion is: If you preach Christ, you are my friend, and I can glean from you! I cling to growing up Missionary Baptist – My foundation… I cling MORE to Jesus. As the opportunity arises, I will go to a convention because it draws me in with what they offer. If it’s going to help me be a better minister, leader, and give strategies in those areas, I’m THERE!

  4. Stewart Peoples | Reply

    Those are great points. Allow me to add that conventions reflect the churches that comprise them. Church attendance in America is declining, so I expect conventions to reflect that decline. Also, as the method of “doing church” evolves, so must the convention.

    1. I love that… “Doing Church”

  5. Reblogged this on Pentecost Today! and commented:
    I will blog about how this affects the Pentecostal Church at Large.

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